the 2008 come pain that he wasn't doing well in pennsylvania because of people that cling to guns and religion. >> right. james, you know, don't offend gun owners piece jumped out at all three of us here today. 58% in a new poll said they want gun safety and there is a lot of interest in that that jumps from 42% a year ago but i don't think that the democrats are being offensive toward gun owners at all. the nra makes it seem like -- they fearmonger toward that idea but i think we need to not be offensive to those who have been killed and will be in the future by gun violence that can be -- and the nra leadership battles against even the most simple common sensical responses to this massive problem. >> and the white house certainly going to push. the president is going to talk about guns in his state of the union address next month. and my piece lays out as he does that, he can call for certain gun safety things. there's a lot that polls well, a lot that could arguably help deal with various problems. but the white house knows based on the polling that the president's going to have to talk abo